Comments on: 18,000 Naked Mexicans http://pribek.net/2007/05/06/18000-naked-mexicans/ Trouble Ain't Over Tue, 06 Jan 2009 07:09:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Pat http://pribek.net/2007/05/06/18000-naked-mexicans/comment-page-1/#comment-3809 Pat Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:37:38 +0000 http://pribek.net/2007/05/06/18000-naked-mexicans/#comment-3809 In addition to the discussions: I think the artist, Tunick, has been affected by the cultural divide. He is building the structure for globalization. Many artists are concerning themselves with state-of-their-art as it is introduced to international broadcasting. You said it J: Artists sense things long before things happen. "...If somebody creates something that makes me react in some way, physical, emotional, spiritual, negative or positive then, to me, it’s art." So I took a look/look at this: Monday, January 14, 2008 Thirteen, Richard K. Morgan http://thougtfulquotes.blogspot.com/2008/01/thirteen-richard-k-morgan_4056.html <blockquote>"See once upon a time," Yavuz was saying, "fear was a unifying force." Back then, you could make a country string [along] with xenophobia. That's the old model, the nation-state fortress thing. But you can't live in a fortress when your whole way of life depends on globalized interdependance and trade. Once that happens, xenophobic tendency becomes a handicap, in Groombridge's terms a non-adaptive trait.'</blockquote> Art tends to define its own moral compass as it moves along. To be non-adaptive is unacceptable to real artists. Yes, laws do sustain the fortresses of our fabulous institutional strongholds. Fear to test and confront laws is fear enough for most of us. But in Tunick's discovery he sees "xenophobia" of this type is a handicap. Conclusion: I would say: Nudity in public display is the rebar of globalization and interdependance. Recognizing the adjustment needed in the moral compass; that is art. So, lesson is -- don't ask a global-economics-pundit about golobalization. Ask rather Tunick. or Rothko, or Alex Grey... There are others long before these masters, including youse guys! Thanks for the great discussion Roger. ...and you too ya big Boheme. >pd <em>Pat's last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/MoopigWisdom/~3/229654916/writerss-mollified-almost.html' rel="nofollow">Writers's Mollified, almost</a></em> In addition to the discussions:
I think the artist, Tunick, has been affected by the cultural divide. He is building the structure for globalization. Many artists are concerning themselves with state-of-their-art as it is introduced to international broadcasting. You said it J: Artists sense things long before things happen. “…If somebody creates something that makes me react in some way, physical, emotional, spiritual, negative or positive then, to me, it’s art.”

So I took a look/look at this: Monday, January 14, 2008
Thirteen, Richard K. Morgan http://thougtfulquotes.blogspot.com/2008/01/thirteen-richard-k-morgan_4056.html

“See once upon a time,” Yavuz was saying, “fear was a unifying force.” Back then, you could make a country string [along] with xenophobia. That’s the old model, the nation-state fortress thing. But you can’t live in a fortress when your whole way of life depends on globalized interdependance and trade. Once that happens, xenophobic tendency becomes a handicap, in Groombridge’s terms a non-adaptive trait.’

Art tends to define its own moral compass as it moves along. To be non-adaptive is unacceptable to real artists. Yes, laws do sustain the fortresses of our fabulous institutional strongholds. Fear to test and confront laws is fear enough for most of us. But in Tunick’s discovery he sees “xenophobia” of this type is a handicap.

Conclusion: I would say: Nudity in public display is the rebar of globalization and interdependance.

Recognizing the adjustment needed in the moral compass; that is art.

So, lesson is — don’t ask a global-economics-pundit about golobalization. Ask rather Tunick. or Rothko, or Alex Grey… There are others long before these masters, including youse guys!
Thanks for the great discussion Roger. …and you too ya big Boheme.
>pd

Pat’s last blog post..Writers’s Mollified, almost

]]> By: Roger Coss http://pribek.net/2007/05/06/18000-naked-mexicans/comment-page-1/#comment-2064 Roger Coss Wed, 23 May 2007 14:14:29 +0000 http://pribek.net/2007/05/06/18000-naked-mexicans/#comment-2064 Hello Pribek, When I first hear Spencer Tunick was coming to Cleveland I was not too impressed. I had heard of his free speech issues in the 90's but hadn't paid much attention after. I looked up his works on line and saw a few small photos of group nudes sprawled about. Then I saw an individual nude he had done of a young woman in Chile. She was not a standard "art nude" but a strong woman, standing with crutches, showing a tremendous spririt. Wow! I was impesssed and have since posed for Spencer many times. To see some of his works go to the I-20 Gallery(NYC) site or the i8 Gallery in Iceland where he currently has a showing(www.i8.is). These works will still be small representations of his large works, but will give you an idea of his art, as opposed to the news photos which just catch small glimpses. We also have a site for Spencer Tunick fans or those who want to see more of his art, including his lesser known individual works. The Spencer Tunick Forum at http://wwww.spencertunickforum.org Roger Hello Pribek,

When I first hear Spencer Tunick was coming to Cleveland I was not too impressed. I had heard of his free speech issues in the 90’s but hadn’t paid much attention after. I looked up his works on line and saw a few small photos of group nudes sprawled about. Then I saw an individual nude he had done of a young woman in Chile. She was not a standard “art nude” but a strong woman, standing with crutches, showing a tremendous spririt. Wow! I was impesssed and have since posed for Spencer many times. To see some of his works go to the I-20 Gallery(NYC) site or the i8 Gallery in Iceland where he currently has a showing(www.i8.is). These works will still be small representations of his large works, but will give you an idea of his art, as opposed to the news photos which just catch small glimpses. We also have a site for Spencer Tunick fans or those who want to see more of his art, including his lesser known individual works. The Spencer Tunick Forum at http://wwww.spencertunickforum.org
Roger

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