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	<title>Comments on: Genrefication Reset And McDonald&#8217;s Current Contribution To The Destruction Of Creative Thought</title>
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	<description>Trouble Ain't Over</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pat Darnell and Friends</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat Darnell and Friends</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, did any of you see this audition for American Idol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgEKEYAUX2c

?

&lt;em&gt;Pat Darnell and Friends's last blog post..&lt;a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/MoopigWisdom/~3/279795858/nello-and-orso-weigh-in-on-penguins.html' rel="nofollow"&gt;Nello and Orso weigh in on Penguins: UPDATE !!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, did any of you see this audition for American Idol:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgEKEYAUX2c" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgEKEYAUX2c</a></p>
<p>?</p>
<p><em>Pat Darnell and Friends&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/MoopigWisdom/~3/279795858/nello-and-orso-weigh-in-on-penguins.html' rel="nofollow">Nello and Orso weigh in on Penguins: UPDATE !!</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Pribek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pribek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"genre is far more about who the audience is than who is playing,"
hmmm...this very easily turns into a chicken or egg discussion, Sans.

Here is something I know for fact, that I have witnessed and been part of.

If a band or an artist wishes to enter into the actual music business, it is conducive to present the act within the confines of a genre. People(fans, musicians) often seem queasy about the fact that a vital component to a successful music career is flat out marketing and promotion.

People that engage in marketing and promotion of music (booking agents, managers, publicists, labels, reviewers) are not at all enthused with talented people that display genre-hopping proclivities. These sorts make their jobs more difficult.

It's a generalization but, one that I have found to be accurate.

There are many, many times that I have seen this become a determining factor in the musical development of an artist or band. It diverts from a natural course and, makes the process more and more non-musical. In my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;genre is far more about who the audience is than who is playing,&#8221;<br />
hmmm&#8230;this very easily turns into a chicken or egg discussion, Sans.</p>
<p>Here is something I know for fact, that I have witnessed and been part of.</p>
<p>If a band or an artist wishes to enter into the actual music business, it is conducive to present the act within the confines of a genre. People(fans, musicians) often seem queasy about the fact that a vital component to a successful music career is flat out marketing and promotion.</p>
<p>People that engage in marketing and promotion of music (booking agents, managers, publicists, labels, reviewers) are not at all enthused with talented people that display genre-hopping proclivities. These sorts make their jobs more difficult.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a generalization but, one that I have found to be accurate.</p>
<p>There are many, many times that I have seen this become a determining factor in the musical development of an artist or band. It diverts from a natural course and, makes the process more and more non-musical. In my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Sans Direction</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sans Direction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 04:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not sure. With a gun to my head, I might say that genre is far more about who the audience is than who is playing, but when I get a chance to think about it, it doesn't work. 

Bob Brozman, a man whose playing and breadth of influences I respect and whose politics I'm less enamored with, said something much more eloquently than I can about punk and thrash and metal and hardcore, but it's all four-piece bands with heavily compressed dynamics playing loudly through huge stacks, with the similarities much more important than what few distinctions there actually are. And there, the audience is different, too, I guess.

But, in order to be able to intelligently discuss things, you need a classification system. But once you set up the boxes, it seems the coolest artists are the ones that break through them.

&lt;em&gt;Sans Direction's last blog post..&lt;a href='http://sansdirection.blogspot.com/2008/04/book-i-should-be-writing.html' rel="nofollow"&gt;The book I should be writing&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure. With a gun to my head, I might say that genre is far more about who the audience is than who is playing, but when I get a chance to think about it, it doesn&#8217;t work. </p>
<p>Bob Brozman, a man whose playing and breadth of influences I respect and whose politics I&#8217;m less enamored with, said something much more eloquently than I can about punk and thrash and metal and hardcore, but it&#8217;s all four-piece bands with heavily compressed dynamics playing loudly through huge stacks, with the similarities much more important than what few distinctions there actually are. And there, the audience is different, too, I guess.</p>
<p>But, in order to be able to intelligently discuss things, you need a classification system. But once you set up the boxes, it seems the coolest artists are the ones that break through them.</p>
<p><em>Sans Direction&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://sansdirection.blogspot.com/2008/04/book-i-should-be-writing.html' rel="nofollow">The book I should be writing</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Pribek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pribek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 08:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"a Dominican monk, a painter, an historian, or a novelist"-or a fry cook</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;a Dominican monk, a painter, an historian, or a novelist&#8221;-or a fry cook</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 01:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My initial Literature review on genrefication -- could be closely linked to key words &lt;i&gt;genre fecundation&lt;/i&gt; derivative

Striking similarities:
"Desolating my culture &lt;b&gt;fecundated&lt;/b&gt; me. Thereafter, it seemed to me that "language games" implied [that].... The proper of philosophy is not to have a proper &lt;b&gt;genre.&lt;/b&gt; ...Jean-François Lyotard was born in Vincennes, France, on August 10, 1924. His father, Jean-Pierre Lyotard, was a [get this--] &lt;b&gt;sales representative.&lt;/b&gt;

His mother's maiden name was Madeleine Cavalli. He was schooled at the Paris Lycées Buffon and Louis-le-Grand, and his youthful aspirations to be a Dominican monk, a painter, an historian, or a novelist... [settled with philosophy]" (http://www.iep.utm.edu/l/Lyotard.htm )

"His works can be roughly divided into three categories: early writings on phenomenology, politics, and the critique of structuralism, the intermediate libidinal philosophy, and later work on postmodernism and the differend. &lt;b&gt;The majority of his work, however, is unified by a consistent view that reality consists of singular events which cannot be represented accurately by rational theory...&lt;/b&gt;"

Result: "Trouble ain't over," yet! err, still!

&lt;em&gt;Pat's last blog post..&lt;a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/MoopigWisdom/~3/268687190/federico-fellini-amarcord.html' rel="nofollow"&gt;Federico Fellini - Amarcord&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My initial Literature review on genrefication &#8212; could be closely linked to key words <i>genre fecundation</i> derivative</p>
<p>Striking similarities:<br />
&#8220;Desolating my culture <b>fecundated</b> me. Thereafter, it seemed to me that &#8220;language games&#8221; implied [that]&#8230;. The proper of philosophy is not to have a proper <b>genre.</b> &#8230;Jean-François Lyotard was born in Vincennes, France, on August 10, 1924. His father, Jean-Pierre Lyotard, was a [get this--] <b>sales representative.</b></p>
<p>His mother&#8217;s maiden name was Madeleine Cavalli. He was schooled at the Paris Lycées Buffon and Louis-le-Grand, and his youthful aspirations to be a Dominican monk, a painter, an historian, or a novelist&#8230; [settled with philosophy]&#8221; (http://www.iep.utm.edu/l/Lyotard.htm )</p>
<p>&#8220;His works can be roughly divided into three categories: early writings on phenomenology, politics, and the critique of structuralism, the intermediate libidinal philosophy, and later work on postmodernism and the differend. <b>The majority of his work, however, is unified by a consistent view that reality consists of singular events which cannot be represented accurately by rational theory&#8230;</b>&#8221;</p>
<p>Result: &#8220;Trouble ain&#8217;t over,&#8221; yet! err, still!</p>
<p><em>Pat&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/MoopigWisdom/~3/268687190/federico-fellini-amarcord.html' rel="nofollow">Federico Fellini - Amarcord</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 00:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...is it me that is mental, or is it my surroundings touting frontotempora dementia?

&lt;em&gt;Pat's last blog post..&lt;a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/MoopigWisdom/~3/268687190/federico-fellini-amarcord.html' rel="nofollow"&gt;Federico Fellini - Amarcord&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;is it me that is mental, or is it my surroundings touting frontotempora dementia?</p>
<p><em>Pat&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/MoopigWisdom/~3/268687190/federico-fellini-amarcord.html' rel="nofollow">Federico Fellini - Amarcord</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Pribek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pribek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>purely coincidental I'm sure, J</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>purely coincidental I&#8217;m sure, J</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
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		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very insightful analysis!  As I read this I hear "This was supposed to be the age of enlightenment...Shame, shame, shame!  Ain't nothing shaking but the foundation..."

Subliminal salesmen are urging me to buy the CD...

&lt;em&gt;J's last blog post..&lt;a href='http://jinright.edublogs.org/2008/04/11/music-industry-showcase/' rel="nofollow"&gt;Music Industry Showcase&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very insightful analysis!  As I read this I hear &#8220;This was supposed to be the age of enlightenment&#8230;Shame, shame, shame!  Ain&#8217;t nothing shaking but the foundation&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Subliminal salesmen are urging me to buy the CD&#8230;</p>
<p><em>J&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://jinright.edublogs.org/2008/04/11/music-industry-showcase/' rel="nofollow">Music Industry Showcase</a></em></p>
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