Comments on: Someone’s got it in for me, they’re planting stories in the press http://pribek.net/2008/04/29/someones-got-it-in-for-me-theyre-planting-stories-in-the-press/ Trouble Ain't Over Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:53:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Pribek http://pribek.net/2008/04/29/someones-got-it-in-for-me-theyre-planting-stories-in-the-press/#comment-4777 Pribek Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:34:12 +0000 http://pribek.net/2008/04/29/someones-got-it-in-for-me-theyre-planting-stories-in-the-press/#comment-4777 Thaks J, I just happen to have a limited number of hand written lyrics strewn around the Winnebago that just may happen to be worth some money someday. Thaks J,
I just happen to have a limited number of hand written lyrics strewn around the Winnebago that just may happen to be worth some money someday.

]]> By: J http://pribek.net/2008/04/29/someones-got-it-in-for-me-theyre-planting-stories-in-the-press/#comment-4774 J Wed, 30 Apr 2008 01:06:09 +0000 http://pribek.net/2008/04/29/someones-got-it-in-for-me-theyre-planting-stories-in-the-press/#comment-4774 Wow! You're famous! Congratulations, Jack! I can't wait to read part 2 and 3! Got any hand-written lyrics you'd like to sell? ;-) And what was your first guitar? <em>J's last blog post..<a href='http://jinright.edublogs.org/2008/04/28/preparing-for-performance/' rel="nofollow">Preparing for performance.</a></em> Wow! You’re famous! Congratulations, Jack!
I can’t wait to read part 2 and 3!

Got any hand-written lyrics you’d like to sell?
;-)

And what was your first guitar?

J’s last blog post..Preparing for performance.

]]> By: Pribek http://pribek.net/2008/04/29/someones-got-it-in-for-me-theyre-planting-stories-in-the-press/#comment-4772 Pribek Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:42:48 +0000 http://pribek.net/2008/04/29/someones-got-it-in-for-me-theyre-planting-stories-in-the-press/#comment-4772 Thanks Darnells and friends, I kind of feel like Steve Martin in "The Jerk" when the new phone book came out. Thanks Darnells and friends, I kind of feel like Steve Martin in “The Jerk” when the new phone book came out.

]]> By: Pat Darnell and Friends http://pribek.net/2008/04/29/someones-got-it-in-for-me-theyre-planting-stories-in-the-press/#comment-4771 Pat Darnell and Friends Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:09:35 +0000 http://pribek.net/2008/04/29/someones-got-it-in-for-me-theyre-planting-stories-in-the-press/#comment-4771 ;>@ definitely worth a Jayne woohoo here!! with a chorus of Moinjk !! from us. Dave said throw a rock, rub a stone, I guess ya' already home.. Jolly good show old man Pribek. Pat Darnell and Friends ;>@ definitely worth a Jayne woohoo here!! with a chorus of Moinjk !! from us.

Dave said throw a rock, rub a stone, I guess ya’ already home..
Jolly good show old man Pribek.

Pat Darnell and Friends

]]> By: Pribek http://pribek.net/2008/04/29/someones-got-it-in-for-me-theyre-planting-stories-in-the-press/#comment-4770 Pribek Tue, 29 Apr 2008 20:21:17 +0000 http://pribek.net/2008/04/29/someones-got-it-in-for-me-theyre-planting-stories-in-the-press/#comment-4770 Yeah, I know what you are talking about. Generally speaking, in the studio, a song has been demoed and the initial chart is written from the demo version. Therefore, it's subject to change and the various number systems evolved from the need to change keys. In this environment, it seems to work better to not have the lyrics because, the singer is usually recording a scratch vocal that will be redone later. So, you don't want the rhythm section phrasing to the lyrics per se. It seems to work better to have the singer phrasing to the rhythm section. That's why singers need to learn to listen, especially to drummers. It results in a more cohesive, powerful performance. "Thanks so much for the lesson." Well, I am honored and flattered by that, Sans. I just try to have an open book policy on things I've learned or experienced and it gives me joy and satisfaction if I can pass any of it along. Yeah, I know what you are talking about.
Generally speaking, in the studio, a song has been demoed and the initial chart is written from the demo version. Therefore, it’s subject to change and the various number systems evolved from the need to change keys.
In this environment, it seems to work better to not have the lyrics because, the singer is usually recording a scratch vocal that will be redone later. So, you don’t want the rhythm section phrasing to the lyrics per se. It seems to work better to have the singer phrasing to the rhythm section. That’s why singers need to learn to listen, especially to drummers. It results in a more cohesive, powerful performance.

“Thanks so much for the lesson.” Well, I am honored and flattered by that, Sans. I just try to have an open book policy on things I’ve learned or experienced and it gives me joy and satisfaction if I can pass any of it along.

]]> By: Sans Direction http://pribek.net/2008/04/29/someones-got-it-in-for-me-theyre-planting-stories-in-the-press/#comment-4769 Sans Direction Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:59:08 +0000 http://pribek.net/2008/04/29/someones-got-it-in-for-me-theyre-planting-stories-in-the-press/#comment-4769 Good to know. What I put up is pretty close to what I get at church. Not that I'd ever play "Idiot Wind" in church, but the sheet that has the music is likely the same sheet that the singer's working from, so we don't get special sheets without. Not that it wouldn't be useful from time to time. I've heard of a lot of that, and I knew the uppercase/lowercase bit with roman numerals. Thanks so much for the lesson. <em>Sans Direction's last blog post..<a href='http://sansdirection.blogspot.com/2008/04/beg-for-software-pointers.html' rel="nofollow">Beg for Software Pointers</a></em> Good to know.

What I put up is pretty close to what I get at church. Not that I’d ever play “Idiot Wind” in church, but the sheet that has the music is likely the same sheet that the singer’s working from, so we don’t get special sheets without. Not that it wouldn’t be useful from time to time.

I’ve heard of a lot of that, and I knew the uppercase/lowercase bit with roman numerals.

Thanks so much for the lesson.

Sans Direction’s last blog post..Beg for Software Pointers

]]> By: Pribek http://pribek.net/2008/04/29/someones-got-it-in-for-me-theyre-planting-stories-in-the-press/#comment-4768 Pribek Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:54:08 +0000 http://pribek.net/2008/04/29/someones-got-it-in-for-me-theyre-planting-stories-in-the-press/#comment-4768 Generally speaking the chart would not have lyrics. Sometimes they are written over in "bar form" |aminor|B|E Sometimes numbers |2|5|1 Sometimes Nashville Numbers |2m|5|1..usually in the Nashville system the two chord is a major or dominant7 Sometimes the measures are implied 2 5 1...measures that have two chords, like the first one in this example, would go 2/5 5 1 or measure implied with Am B E Sometimes roman numerals |ii|V|I jazz guys write Aminor7 like this A-7 or just A-, a lot of times And then are other ways that aren't coming to mind but, they can all be sussed out if you are able to find some common language. Theory and even rudimentary reading study can often aid in communication. Generally speaking the chart would not have lyrics.
Sometimes they are written over in “bar form”
|aminor|B|E
Sometimes numbers
|2|5|1
Sometimes Nashville Numbers
|2m|5|1..usually in the Nashville system the two chord is a major or dominant7
Sometimes the measures are implied
2 5 1…measures that have two chords, like the first one in this example, would go 2/5 5 1
or measure implied with
Am B E
Sometimes roman numerals
|ii|V|I
jazz guys write Aminor7 like this A-7 or just A-, a lot of times
And then are other ways that aren’t coming to mind but, they can all be sussed out if you are able to find some common language. Theory and even rudimentary reading study can often aid in communication.

]]> By: Sans Direction http://pribek.net/2008/04/29/someones-got-it-in-for-me-theyre-planting-stories-in-the-press/#comment-4766 Sans Direction Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:36:55 +0000 http://pribek.net/2008/04/29/someones-got-it-in-for-me-theyre-planting-stories-in-the-press/#comment-4766 There was supposed to be PRE tags moving the chords above the right words.... B( <em>Sans Direction's last blog post..<a href='http://sansdirection.blogspot.com/2008/04/something-old-something-new.html' rel="nofollow">Something Old, Something New</a></em> There was supposed to be PRE tags moving the chords above the right words…. B(

Sans Direction’s last blog post..Something Old, Something New

]]> By: Sans Direction http://pribek.net/2008/04/29/someones-got-it-in-for-me-theyre-planting-stories-in-the-press/#comment-4765 Sans Direction Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:35:46 +0000 http://pribek.net/2008/04/29/someones-got-it-in-for-me-theyre-planting-stories-in-the-press/#comment-4765 More remedial musicianship: When you say "chord charts", are they much different than, for example, this? Am B E Someone's got it in for me, they're planting stories in the press Am B E Whoever it is I wish they'd cut it out but when they will I can only guess Or do they look different when you're beyond amateur hour? <em>Sans Direction's last blog post..<a href='http://sansdirection.blogspot.com/2008/04/something-old-something-new.html' rel="nofollow">Something Old, Something New</a></em> More remedial musicianship: When you say “chord charts”, are they much different than, for example, this?

Am B E
Someone’s got it in for me, they’re planting stories in the press
Am B E
Whoever it is I wish they’d cut it out but when they will I can only guess

Or do they look different when you’re beyond amateur hour?

Sans Direction’s last blog post..Something Old, Something New

]]> By: Pribek http://pribek.net/2008/04/29/someones-got-it-in-for-me-theyre-planting-stories-in-the-press/#comment-4764 Pribek Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:11:44 +0000 http://pribek.net/2008/04/29/someones-got-it-in-for-me-theyre-planting-stories-in-the-press/#comment-4764 Oh yeah, "Is it that ville that they call NashVegas?" I haven't heard that from the local guys but, I have heard it in Nashville. Oh yeah, “Is it that ville that they call NashVegas?”
I haven’t heard that from the local guys but, I have heard it in Nashville.

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