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Friday Night Cage Match/Fondue Party/Evolving Conversation/Dancing About Architecture Vol.9

May 16th, 2008
by Pribek

Some very interesting discussion indeed with last week’s episode. You guys have proven yourselves very worthy in the art of uncovering hidden sub plots and tangential thought processing.

This week’s offering is chock full of delicious subtleties, as well as twists and turns that defy logic.

Tonight we have:

Robin Trower or Brad Paisley?

As always all answers/non answers are subject interpretation/non-interpretation.

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15 Responses to “Friday Night Cage Match/Fondue Party/Evolving Conversation/Dancing About Architecture Vol.9”

  1. Sans Direction Says:

    I simply don’t know enough about Robin Trower to really compare, beyond “You, Old and busted. Me, the New Hotness.”

    Sans Direction’s last blog post..Play Your Sad Guitar

  2. Pat Darnell and Friends Says:

    Just on a hunch, I’m going with Don Henley & Patti Smyth.

    Pat Darnell and Friends’s last blog post..MooPig Vengeance Department

  3. J Says:

    My vote goes to Robin Trower.

    I missed the “delicious subtleties;” –did anyone else get any?

    (and the Queso dip was cold…)

    J’s last blog post..Economies of Scale -A Night Out with Custer & Foster

  4. Pribek Says:

    “Music has nothing to do with your technical ability.”-Robin Trower

    “I really worked to try and be creative enough on the guitar parts so those who aren’t real educated would know that there was some difficulty in doing it.”-Brad Paisley

    “I can’t say I feel influenced by today’s guitar players.”-Robin Trower

    “The delicious subtleties are next to the little cocktail weenies.”-Martha Stewart

  5. Pat Darnell and Friends Says:

    BP: “…he was an opening act for country singers such as The Judds, Ricky Skaggs, and George Jones at the Capital Music Hall in Wheeling, West Virginia.

    RT: “…born 9 March 1945 in Catford, South East London, England) is an English rock guitarist who achieved success with Procol Harum during the 1960s, and then again as the leader of his own Hendrixesque power trio.

    (why Iki peed ya)

    This is the old “implicit affects the explicit, causal argument …”

    Without going hog wild, I will simply say, all Brad Paisley has to do is reverse engineer what Robin Trower has already done, much like Einstein’s reverse-engineering natural physical laws of conservation to come up with relativity.

    If one knows the outcome already, it is much easier to put a process together. The end result might not be perfect, but it is a cleaner result. Einstein’s theory is not perfect, but clean enough to blow the s*^#t out of anyone who tempts it. (made in USA; tested in Japan)

    It turns out a youngster like Paisley will be natually adjusted to the immense body of work available, knowing how far he can go by how he starts….

    Robin Trower is my natural pick for the annointed ones in this week’s FNCM/FP/EC/DAAV9, brings back my sobs for the dead of my era.

    btw those keyboard solos on Two Trains- tao Pribek, are exceptional, I never get enough of that interlude… I am glad you went with organ there…. yo. (sorry no spellcheck on this pC)

    Pat Darnell and Friends’s last blog post..The next 2 miles of roadway are adopted by the Divorced Catholics of Wentzville…

  6. Pribek Says:

    “Brad Paisley is the most talented pop music star since Prince.

    As a guitar player he’s as good or better than, say, Albert Collins, Richard Thompson, Danny Gatton, or any guitarists’ guitarist you can think of. Although he writes most of his songs in collaboration, he’s a great a songwriting collaborator, like Elton John, and as good at delivering a hooky clever pop novelty as anyone since Smokey Robinson. He sings with the most immaculate, clearly enunciated pop tenor since Billy Joel’s (but instead of Joel’s strident keening, Paisley owns a sly, back of the throat humor that allows him to make the ladies swoon and the guys snicker). He’s got dark, Clooneyesque boy next door good looks AND he’s one of the biggest hitmakers in America.”

    Jason Chervokas

    http://newcritics.com/blog1/2007/06/20/brad-paisley-making-contemporary-country-safe-for-guitar-geeks/

  7. Pat Darnell and Friends Says:

    :sorry, who again is Prince?

    Pribek is looking for “the answer” as if we can read his mind — (btw, I was double dipping, J… and I’m the culprit who ate all the miniature sweet gherkins, and baby carrots.. with the raunch dressing. I stayed away from the hot sauce, gave me heartburn last week.. oh goodness)

    ..this is double entendre, right?

    “Paisley owns a sly, back of the throat humor that allows him to make the ladies swoon and the guys snicker..

    So give him a red, white, and blue guitar and call him Buck Owens, but…
    Well, Jason, that may all be true, but unfortunately this triple threat kid Brad Paisley is not more desirable than Robin Trower, in any category, sorry old boy.

    Pat Darnell and Friends’s last blog post..The next 2 miles of roadway are adopted by the Divorced Catholics of Wentzville…MO !!

  8. Pat Darnell and Friends Says:

    Here is the exit poll tally on that last categorical comment by Jason ‘d Greek’ Chervokas, Pribek:

    “guitarists’ guitarist” – Lowell George 13 — Paisley 4.5
    “songwriting collaborator” – Elton John 10 — Paisley 0
    “hooky clever pop novelty deliverables” – Barry Manilow 10 — Paisley 0.5251
    “pop tenor” – Eros Ramazotti 10 — Paisley 2.314
    “dark, Clooneyesque boy next door good looks” – Clooney 11.99 — Paisley 7.002
    “biggest hitmaker in America” – Chuck Liddell 10 — Paisley 0.10
    ___________________________________
    References:
    http://ptwithchris.wordpress.com/2007/04/19/sicom-chuck-liddels-prep-for-rampage-jackson/

    survey given to three thousand phone in groupies ages 1 to 99. 10 is highest value= “Like a lot”, 1 is lowest= “eat up with a dumbass.” Negative numbers not shown. Results are +/- 3%

    Pat Darnell and Friends’s last blog post..The next 2 miles of roadway are adopted by the Divorced Catholics of Wentzville…MO !!

  9. J Says:

    That’s ok, Pat; –I ate all the Tim McGraw Fritos…

    J’s last blog post..Economies of Scale -A Night Out with Custer & Foster

  10. Gary Says:

    I’ve heard about Brad Paisley but haven’t heard him yet – where should I start?

    Gary’s last blog post..CD Review – Neil Diamond – Home Before Dark

  11. Pribek Says:

    I have to admit that I haven’t listened to a lot of his stuff, Gary.
    As a fan, I have an aversion to slicked up, major label, Nashville product. And, in my mind, they way that Paisley is marketed makes me wary. When I see a video of a guy in a cowboy hat with a stage show that looks Bon Jovi, I have a hard time taking it seriously and, I look away.
    Yet, in my gut, I know that guy can really play.
    Sans peaked my interest a while back when he mentioned an instrumental record that Paisley will be releasing.
    Don’t know if it’s out yet though.

  12. Sans Direction Says:

    It isn’t out yet.

    I will tell you it’s fairly easy to find ways to hear his music without paying, if that’s something you’re accepting of.

    There are a few levels Brad works on. There’s the standard pop country thing. Well, the George Strait thing. Don’t know if it’s offensive to call that level pop country, and I don’t want a real cowboy’s boot up my ass. They have that point at the end, you know. Anyway, he’s OK at that. Not great. First music I heard from him was “He Didn’t Have To Be”, which easily could’ve been a Strait hit. Brad’s not George, and I find the great and powerful George a chore to listen to sometimes, even knowing he’s a freakin’ industry in and of himself.

    (There’s an XM station now that’s all George, all the time. My goodness. Could you imagine having enough product to be all you 24-7?)

    (I love the Pure Country movie for one scene. Once George stopped being Billy Ray Cyrus and gone back, he meets his stand-in. Now, George can act about as much as I can rule the country charts, which is to say, not a lick. He recites his conditions to the double, which approach “you will go away and crawl under a rock or I will squash you like a bug on a windshield”. Double says “You haven’t heard the last of me. He responds, “Yeah, I have.” An actor would try to make that line have a punch. George Strait says it with an unaffected line reading, like he honestly couldn’t care less. Which is awesome. But enough George.)

    Then there’s the novelty. The first point I payed attention to him was when I heard “I love her, but I love to fish”. I knew I was in for a love song that Dr. Demento would love. Then I found “Me Neither”, which has to be the least successful string of pickup attempts in the history of Nashville. I like to laugh. I’ve been picking up Weird Al albums since In 3-D. Then he gets to the skits with the Kung-Pao Buckaroos (George Jones, Bill Anderson and Little Jimmy Dickens) that are somewhere on that line between clever and stupid. And while novelty might sell, might keep Weird Al in vegetables and tape and California property, it isn’t where you find respect.

    Then there’s the fact that Brad’s a freakin’ chicken pickin’ shredder. I first picked up in “Me Neither”, when he asks “Don’t you think we should quit this song? … Me neither!” and tears it up with the band for a good few minutes. I’ve been thinking and comparing him with people like Keith Urban. Keith sounds like a rock player with a phone in the 615 area code. Rockers play like it’s a drag race, where they play fast until they’re done. Country players, tracing for me as far back as Speedy West and Jimmy Bryant, play like relay players. You don’t hear about rockers trading 8s, but that’s one thing country got from jazz via western swing.

    Country has the tradition, through Hee-Haw and the Opry, of being as much humor as music, and lowest-denominator humor, too. “You found another and *phhhhht* you were gone!” I’m glad to hear happy songs. I’m glad to hear songs like “Mr. Policeman”, which has Brad in Bandit’s Trans Am and challenging Smokey to a chase, until it ends with a chorus of “In The Jailhouse Now”. Most other genres have stupid elements, too, but take themselves seriously too much.

    (When Bill Monroe brought Earl Scruggs to the Opry, Uncle Dave Macon said “He ain’t a damn bit funny.” Keith can tear it up, but unless I’m missing something, he ain’t a damn bit funny, either.)

    The piece I’d send out to sell Brad is “Time Warp” from his fourth album. It basically switches between a cool jazz thing and a hot country instrumental, and it’s instrumentally mindblowing and musically hilarious.

    Sans Direction’s last blog post..Your History is not History, or My Favorite Year

  13. Sans Direction Says:

    And Gary, 5th Gear is a pretty good place to start. “Throttleneck” is the instrumental, “Ticks” is the novelty love song, “Mr. Policeman” is the more jokey song, there’s a bunch more that are or will be singles, and “Letter To Me” is the George Strait song. YouTube should have all the videos.

    And I won’t mention that simply typing something like ’site:blogspot.com brad paisley’ will point you to some places where you can get everything is free, because that would be WRONG.

    Sans Direction’s last blog post..Your History is not History, or My Favorite Year

  14. Pribek Says:

    CMA Video O’ the Year
    Brad Paisley – “Online”
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=7GcVnhNjWV0

  15. Gary Says:

    thanks for the pointers, guys, I’ll be pointing my pointer to Paisley Park soon.

    Gary’s last blog post..Crook Guitar Straps

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