It’s been getting pretty deep around here lately. Deeeeeeeeeeeeeep if you know what I’m sayin’.
Well, tonight’s version of FNCMFPECDAA promises to ensure things are going to get deeper.
This week we have………
John Lydon (A.K.A. Johnny Rotten) or David Crosby (A.K.A. Melissa’s Baby Daddy)?
Go deep.
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J wrote,
Crosby is a venerable veteran of stage and screen. He appeared on The Simpsons. I like him. Professional.
Lydon is a post-punk. From Wilkipedia;
In November 1997, Lydon appeared on Judge Judy fighting a suit filed by his former tour drummer Robert Williams for breach of contract, and assault and battery. Lydon won the case, and the judge called Williams a “nudnik”, although she did advise Lydon to keep quiet several times. During an appearance on Politically Incorrect, in response to a statement about “hand lotion” in men’s restrooms, Lydon remarked “Well, I’m English - we still have our foreskins”.
Although he has a sense of humor and has grown up over the years, he’s still too punk for me.
Crosby gets my vote.
Link | July 25th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Sans Direction wrote,
This is not a love song!
This is not a love song!
This is not a love song!
This is not a love song!
This is not a love song!
This is not a love song!
This is not a love song!
This is not a love song!
This is not a love song!
John Lydon.
Ever feel cheated?
Link | July 25th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Pat Darnell and Friends wrote,
In a conference room at St. Andrews is Dr. Harper– a Presbyterian Minister–, David Crosby, and Johnny Lydon. It is the year 1995.
Dr Harper [Presbyter Minister]: “I have known both of you all your lives; I know your parents and I have performed marriages and funerals for many of your relations.”
[Crosby and Lydon both nod in agreement to what Dr. Harper is saying.]
Dr Harper: “You both sang in the choirs from childhood till you left in your late teens, correct?” Both nod yes. “I baptized you, Johnny, in 1968 when you were twelve, and I baptized you David in 1953.”
“Now Johnny I have you both here because it is time you own up to the fact that your music is not as good as David’s. Therefore, I ask you to consider the long term part of your golden years as Johnny Rotten?”
Johnny: “Why is that Dr Harper? I have a large following! [a bit shocked]”
Dr Harper: “Let me explain Johnny, David’s songs are about genuine feelings of love for women, for the sea, and for humanity. David never contrives a song as a ‘hit,’ rather he mixes concoctions of heart and beauty …the results are organic, non-formulaic, asymmetric structure, naturally flowing melody wrapped in rich open-tunings from his guitar.”
David: “Hey, I’m a happy guy. When I get an idea I want to pursue it immediately because there is a certain surge of muse juice right at that point [laughter].”
Dr Harper: “I want you both to know I was there at the birth of Rock ‘n Roll. I know in my heart what spawned it, and I have suffered the up and down roller coasters in my days, of pop culture and its impact on our liturgy. Yes?”
Johnny: [looks very unhappy] “You two are making me feel rotten. I have tried to end Rock ‘n Roll. It’s an old fashion format, idiots performing, and it’s a plague, it’s rotten, it’s a disease.”
(to be continued)…
Link | July 25th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Sans Direction wrote,
Byrds: is it Crosby’s music? Or is it Gene Clark’s? And Roger McGuinn’s? Yeah, there’s songs like “Triad”, but the songs you know aren’t really his.
CSN(&Y): I can almost say the same here. But I just can’t. “Wooden Ships”. “Guinnevere”.
Sex Pistols, PIL: Even if he didn’t have any part in writing the songs, which I believe he did, he was the soul frontman for both band.
I really gotta go Rotten here.
Link | July 25th, 2008 at 10:10 pm
Pribek wrote,
Q Magazine’s Top 100 Singers of All Time
1. Elvis Presley
16. John Lydon
99. David Crosby
That’s All Time
Link | July 26th, 2008 at 1:10 am
Pribek wrote,
from “muse juice magic musical stories from the heart”
http://www.musejuicemagic.com/home.html
Link | July 26th, 2008 at 1:23 am
J wrote,
Q Magazine? Gimme a break!
This only proves you can find someone list/statistic/site that will say anything.
Stereogum’s summation works quite nicely for me:
http://stereogum.com/archives/shit-list/the-greatest-voices-of-all-time_004778.html
Link | July 26th, 2008 at 4:56 am
Gary wrote,
croz
Link | July 26th, 2008 at 7:23 am
J wrote,
And which “Muse Juice” are you referring to; Jim Beam, Jack Daniels or Maker’s Mark?
Due to numerous present-day responsibilities, even “Muse Juice” is no longer what it once was…
http://www.makersmarkgiftshop.com/MM2104.htm
Link | July 26th, 2008 at 7:46 am
Pat Darnell and Friends wrote,
Hello, My name is Jodi… Seems she got some of the MuJu left over from ‘66. Way to go Crozby, ya old Welsh bagger. I’m surprised there is some still around; I knew you were heroic, but this proves you are energetic too!
To continue, coming from a non-musical, painter’s background…
Due to numerous present-day responsibilities, even “Muse Juice” is no longer what it once was… (Dr J; above) fits very well–
If I could just make it [off?] this time… I’d never need to read another highway sign;
Smokin’ [ditch?] weed, drinkin’ rocket fuel… brother tell me where you been? (0:56, Salvation, Pribek)
Decadence is when the parts of the organism [say a flower] no longer support the life of the organism. It is similar in my mind to sour grapes, flower petals after pollination….
I ask this to my esteemed FNCM… com-mentors, tor-mentors and minty-spacers, is this our way of being part of “those who deplore decadence because we are nostalgic for a golden age of social unity, while those who praise decadence elevate the self-aware, seemingly self-determined individual, answerable only to himself/herself?”
If so, then this is where Johnny Rotten comes in… between the advance and decline of art is The Dialectic of Decadence.. (Donald Kuspit, 1993 and 2000, the Dialectic of decadence)
And there remains John Lydon to this day… a minimalist who is on a mission with no place to go.
That is why “Dr Harper in 1995 asked Johnny Rotten to donate his liver to David Crosby in the fictional meeting.”
“Just in case we need a backup liver, we need yours, Johnny” said the minister.
Link | July 26th, 2008 at 11:51 am
Sans Direction wrote,
That can either be seen as a critique of Crosby or one of Q mag.
Link | July 26th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Pribek wrote,
I got to be honest, what started me on this was this whole Neil Young as Shaman thing that Darnell threw out there. I started thinking, who would be the Anti-Shaman? Johnny Rotten is probably more of a representative of the whole batch of original punks. A well known representative. Johnny Ramone may be the true Anti-Shaman.
I’m from the generation after the well-meaning but, ultimately less than revolutionary hippie, flower power, free love bunch. Crosby is an icon to that in my eyes. The punks were supposed to blow all that to hell. Turns out they were equally deluded.
So, no sir, not nostalgic for a golden age of social unity or the bogus Anarchy that followed.
I’ve never owned “Never Mind The Bollocks” or “Deja Vu”. The Pistols lose credibility as we speak by lapping up the cash on the European Festival circuit, picking the pockets of a new generation that Lydon calls “soft” because they didn’t grow up in a blue collar atmosphere.
I won’t call Crosby out for his excessive lifestyle or even his belief that the symbols meant something. But, he is responsible for the fact that this…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXuJNZTwkWQ
…exists 40 years down the road. Fly Your Freak Flag High Brother!
Yeah, I do feel like I got cheated.
Link | July 26th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
Axe wrote,
Cros - every time. He’s a misguided fool but I love him for his voice and for a lot of his music.
Link | July 27th, 2008 at 9:13 am
Pribek wrote,
From BBC 2’s poll to find the person considered to be the Greatest Briton of all time
http://www.thecustard.tv/linksandlists/greatbritons.html
Link | July 27th, 2008 at 9:29 am
Jodi wrote,
I was wondering why you chose to copy and paste from my website?
Jodi
Link | August 15th, 2008 at 10:41 pm
Pribek wrote,
Hi Jodi, in a roundabout answer to your question; this is a little thing we do here every Friday night to blow off some steam, take a break from the mundane and it often gets plum silly. If you look at comment #3 from the venerated Mr. Darnell, he used the sentence, “When I get an idea I want to pursue it immediately because there is a certain surge of muse juice right at that point”, in his fictional account of a meeting between a doctor, Stephen Stills and Johnny Rotten.
Now, one of the things that happens quite a lot here at the old Friday Night Cage Match/Fondue Party/Evolving Conversation/Dancing About Architecture is, somebody will reference somebody or something or say a phrase that will send the other participants scrambling to search engines or wikipedia in order to research what has just been said. Often we will share what we found and post a link to where we found it so, the person who originally published the item gets due credit.
In this particular instance, I was intrigued by the phrase “muse juice” in Mr. Darnell’s little essay. I thought to myself; “I don’t believe I’ve ever heard the phrase muse juice before”. Being a songwriter myself and always on the lookout for a new and unique turn of phrase, I Googled the words “muse juice” and, lo and behold, your site was at the top of the search results. Congratulations on your optimization.
I was so delighted that someone had not only used the phrase “muse juice” but also used it in the title of a published website that I immediately shared what I had learned with my compatriots.
It’s all in good fun here at the Friday Night Cage Match/Fondue Party/Evolving Conversation/Dancing About Architecture Jodi and no offense was intended.
Thanks for stopping by Jodi and feel free to join in the fun any time.
Best to you,
Jack
Link | August 16th, 2008 at 12:50 am