Friday Night Cage Match/Fondue Party/Evolving Conversation/Dancing About Architecture Vol. 91
April 16, 2010 · Posted in Discussion
Derek Trucks or Sonny Landreth?
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The post to blame: Most Peculiar Mama (Don't Eat Your Cat)
Am I just the first guy to show up for these things?
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yes, we’ve gotten used to you setting the tone
No, not exactly Mr Direction, like a Loggerhead Turtle hatchling I’ve been incubating in the coral sand, waiting until the conditions prompt me to make a gangling fifty yard dash to my computer at work. There I eagerly check in at FNCMFP …etc , only more often than not I am pecked on by Gulls, nibbled at by sand crabs, and recently fully eaten by schools of Barracuda darting by …
Today’s pride match leaves me swimming out to the open ocean in a frantic denial — I know nothing of these two.
Even if I did — I wouldn’t have anything fresh to say about them. Damn, I’m just another high risk Loggerhead Turtle hatchling eat up ….
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vuadh1o0yC8
Desdemona and Allmans , Derek trucks…. this is so sweet … it almost makes me sick.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxzk46iToo4
And this Sonny Landreth instructional drips like honey from the bear’s mouth … you tell me who is the cooler cookie and I will go with your recommendation… Right now I’m calling it a draw, 20 to 20 in all five rounds, dead nut draw.
(If I say so myself, that has to be one of my best puns ever — you know, dead nut i.e. dread naught,,, get it,,, eh?)
Oh well …
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Neither one has ever really been the number one on my playlist. I can comment on them, sure, but I don’t really want to start it, you know?
Both are great players, and great slide players, which unfortunately isn’t that common.
I’ve heard The Road We’re On, but only incidental pieces of Derek with the Allmans. The sense I have is that Derek is in the Duane Allman tradition, but with a lot more experimental Indian in him than anything Duane actually played on, while Sonny….
I’ll say it straight. Sonny’s tone reminds me of Steve Vai. He sounds like a slide shredder. And he kinda plays like a slide shredder.
The one thing you should take from Sonny, if you take nothing else, is that you can fret behind the slide, and you can pick behind the slide. Take notes on that.
I’ve bought more than one Shrapnel album. I know from shredders. But there are times when Fillmore Concerts is the only CD I have in the car. I tell the kids “Just one more song”, then put on the 30-minute “Mountain Jam”. Which gets to my mindset these days. Gain gets you notes that sing instead of plink, but when you get into delay and phase and chorus, it doesn’t sound the same. Not many guitarists sound as beautiful as Duane and his Gibsons through a 50watt Marshall head.
Both, clearly, are monster players. Both, clearly, are well worth the study. And it would be too much to say “Duane Allman” at this point, so I’ll say Lowell George. B)
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Hahaa! This is a tough one for me too. So far, we’re all “Dead Nut”! That’s why Dave bails to the safety of Lowell. I also find myself camping on Lowell’s porch, occasionally running across the street to David Lindley’s house for more ice. Johnny Winter in his prime was a slider supreme– a bacon chipotle slider supreme in fact. With fries even. Leo Kottke is a killer too, inventor of the Vaseline Machine Gun. There’s an East Coast cat named David Tronzo who does bebop stuff on slide. Speedy West was a freak on pedal steel, but there are also some mad scientists out there who do Mozart & Bach stuff on pedal steel. They live in their basements, sleeping next to a shop lathe.
Derek Trucks tends to be more linear, whereas Landreth gets into some cool chord textures. Surprised to see Dave comparing Landreth to Steve Vai and “shredders”. Sonny is a Cajun. I kinda think of him as an Eric Johnson of the slide with a Bo Diddley twist, and I don’t consider EJ a shredder. My definition of “shredder” is someone who employs sweep picking technique most of the time. I had to arrive at this definition in order to not classify high velocity Bluegrass and Country pickers “shredders”. Consequently, I don’t consider a legato player like Alan Holdsworth a shredder either, nor Jeff Beck. The onomatopoeia of “shred” also reeks of maximum distortion saturated sweeping runs, something you can also get from eating too much bad Mexican food.
Both Trucks and Landreth have nice creamy tone.
Today I’m gonna go with Sonny Landreth because he also demonstrates amazing rhythms and harmony in addition to linear slide technique.
This is a process, you understand.
Loggerhead turtle hatchling.
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I love them both and would hate to have to choose between them. So I won’t!
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Shred or, Not Shred? Al Dimeola-Steve Morse-Tommy Tedesco (king of the sweep pickers).
I think the gist is electric slide playing. The single note possibilities on the electric changed the tone and touch. Lowell and Duane evolved roughly around the same time and both developed unique takes on single note phrasing along with the established lexicon at the time
Derek and Sonny seem to be the pair that are resonating with the rank and file at present. There are a lot of guys out there pushing the threshold but with many there seems, to me at least, to be an attitude of “bet you never saw anybody do this with a slide, have ya’?”
Both these guys are dripping musicality. Maybe, that’s why they hit home.
If a new Sonny disc and a new Derek disc were sitting side by side, I’d probably pick up the Landreth first to see what he’s up to because, I feel like he brought some new stuff to table. After seeing Sonny, it made me re-think particularly how to comp behind a singer.
If you need me, I’ll be taking a nap over behind the band saw.
btw-the Lowell/Duane discussion is also a great place to start the metal v. glass debate.
Are there any current guys using the steel or brass that are making waves?
Also, Rory should get some run and Ry as well.
Back to my Loggerhead chowder now.
“bet you never saw anybody do this with a slide, have ya’?”…
Hehe. First thing that came to my mind was Hellecaster, Will Ray with 3 slides on his right hand.
How did I leave out Ry Cooder?!!
Back to my coral sand incubator.
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I am a huge fan of David Lindley. In fact, I realized long ago that, if I had my wish, I’d be someone’s David Lindley. Although not Jackson Browne’s. (I like much of his stuff, but there’s so much we could never agree on.) But he’s another kettle of fish, and so is Ry Cooder. As is Leo Kottke. (I heard a guy on Pandora doing what sounded to me like a half-speed version of “Vaseline Machine Gun”. If it isn’t fast and slick, what’s the point?)
And I think I stopped listening to shred before Gambale really started taking their ears, so I associate them more with fast alternate and economy picking and not the sweep thing. I know Sonny’s done a lot of stuff, the only one I’ve really sat down and listened to is the one I mentioned, and that was my take-away. That, and that same kind of tone, which I’m not a fan of. I should buy more of his CDs….
And I’m glad that everyone accepted my Lowell judgement as it was meant, as a cop-out.
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