Friday Night Cage Match/Fondue Party/Evolving Conversation/Dancing About Architecture Vol. 103
July 23, 2010 · Posted in Discussion
Jerry Garcia or Dickey Betts?
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Pribek At Zazzle
The post to blame: Most Peculiar Mama (Don't Eat Your Cat)
Good question. Good question.
Let me think on that one.
In terms of CDs owned, Dickey takes the lead, but barely.
But I like bluegrass through Jerry. It’s hard to trace, but trust me, it’s true. I love Dickey, but he never lead me anywhere.
Jerry functioned until he died. Dickey was asked to leave the Allman Brothers because he lost his ability to function. As I heard it, the last straw was when they started a song and midway through, Dickey had to ask what the song was.
I think that Jerry’s role with the Grateful Dead was much more central than Dickey’s role with the Allmans, which is why the Dead had to stop and rename and rethink themselves with his death, while the Allmans simply took back Jimmy Herring and went on with their business. Jerry Garcia was more central to his band, and thus I think he wins.
Jerry Garcia.
All you ABB fans, don’t murder me. Please, please, please, don’t murder me….
Can we throw in Alternate John Denver in case one of these doesn’t show?
Humor me; Jack is at a gig right now thinking: “What are they saying; what are they saying?”
Initially I am with Mr Direction — if I say Dickey, it smells like disrespect for Jerry, … if I say Jerry, it makes my brother happy, but puts me on the fence on Allman Bro’s. And I am not on the fence with them, ever.
So should I shrink back into my original role as “student” and say “Whatever.”
Nope, I sense there is more to this than over-under pandering and whiskey laden palaver.
This is an exercise in shameful reconnoitering of long term, back end loaded, investments on both accounts. And I think Pribek knows that. The Conundrum — regrets tell me it doesn’t last forever. Shyte, it didn’t even last a full generation.
I gave a piece of myself to each of these guys. Now that all has matured, did I deposit in the right accounts?
Bleedingly — I say “Dickey Betts and Great Southern” to win in the fifth round by technical knock out.
Somehow I think that some pit of a rock will go on with this peach, Dickey Betts, yep.
Pat Pend out.
Go ahead try to disambiguate this one, … whyikkipeedya …
http://s0.ilike.com/play#Dickey+Betts+%26+Great+Southern:Tangled+Up+In+Blue:1624987:s45029782.11625067.21531953.0.2.115%2Cstd_985382276fbd466aa2721ef7f442722e
But is Great Southern in the same league as ABB or the Dead?
Jerry for versatility. His pedal steel in CSN’s Teach Your Children is PHAT!!!
Well well…some interesting fodder for dialectic here.
1. Dickey Betts got fired for getting too loaded.
Something has always smelled funny about that. You know…you got Gregg over there with a lot lot of nap time logged behind the B3, and that whole unseemly business with Scotty…there’s got to be more to this story, probably money.
That aside, the only Grateful Dead show I ever attended was the second to last one and Jerry was several counties removed from functional. His playing was at least as incoherent as any of the YouTubes that show Betts stumbling around.
Here’s a thought-Picture if you can Betts being a member of the Dead. Would he have got fired? Would Jerry be the central figure?
2. Is it proper to settle this thing with a song that features Graham Nash warbling about house cats and vazzes?
I would interested in hearing some comparisons of Betts and Garcia as songwriters and vocalists.
Also, it is clear that PD has a stick up his ass about anybody who isn’t from the right side of the Mason-Dixon line. Is he not aware that Dickey is from Ohio?
That would include experimentation with unprepared discords, I suspect. Our two contestants’ identity, as elaborating notes, is given away by the presence of their slurs.
Serendipity dictates I should defend somehow that being from Ohio is not a prerequisite to eventualities. On second thought, naw. A Northerner in the South is a Yankee; A Northerner who comes to the South and stays is just a plain Damn Yankee. That’s it.
At this point I would point to Pribek’s signature pick scrapes; yes that is right once again I bring that up. Who asked ya?
Yeah that’s right I am bringing in the experts who diddle with state-of-the-arte musicalities. And that means phrasing. I really would like to come up with a “best emotional tap test” to prove once and for all “If Jerry is the Garcia: then Dickey is the Madonna … who has lost her Child.”
Dickey is an emotional player from Ohio, who happens to have been influenced by Southern MELODY, with all its appoggiatura, blitz. His phrasing is superior to Jerry’s.
AwPDaF awt!
Anyone ever hear Jerry Garcia & Pat Metheny playing together on Bruce Hornsby’s “Harbor Lights” album??
No. they are not. You are absolutely right. And I thought of that before I went into editorial opposition to the field. I have no good answer for your counter point.. nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.
Don’t Eat the Cat … especially the House Cat.
I love much of Jerry’s stuff, but some of my favorite songs ever are Dickey songs. “Elizabeth Reed”. “Blue Sky”. “Jessica”.
I still say Jerry.
And no, not on Harbor Lights. But I well know Jerry’s playing on Warren Zevon’s Transverse City.
I’ll have to MOG that.
Side Bet: Is Bruce Hornsby the only Grateful Dead keyboard player that did not die an untimely death?
He never was an official member, I don’t think.
Spinal Tap:Drums::Dead:Keys
No. It is a garden variety green hot chili pepper stuck there, actually. Thank you.
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Whatever it takes to get the job done, and that is the crux.